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Chapter 608: The logic is somewhat broken
[Player No. 4 please speak]
"When 1 and 7 are jumping to the prophet, I want to side with player 7, because I think player 2's performance is very good. He basically talked about all the problems in player 1's speech, and he did not tamper with player 1's speech or change the concept. I believe everyone should be able to recognize such performance."
Player No. 4 didn't beat around the bush and stood up and said that he stood on the side of Player No. 7. The reason was that he thought the surface water of No. 2 was very good and he could not afford the wolf card.
“1号玩家的警徽流是9、12顺验,他验9号玩家我能接受,7敢给尚未发言的9丢金水,确实有可能是7、9双狼,哪怕9没有站边7,该验还是得验的。”
"If I were a prophet, I would also send the first badge flow to player 7. The key is that player 1 sent the second badge flow to player 12. I really don't understand it."
"It is true that 12 is on 7's side, but 12's overall speech is relatively benign. He doesn't seem like a charging wolf who is inciting and stirring up trouble. He is logically on 7's side."
"I think from 1's perspective, 12 is most likely a good guy who is on the wrong side. There's no need to use the police badge on 12. All we need to do is persuade him to turn back."
"1 used the second badge flow on 12, and I wanted to ask him, how many wolves can be opened on the police?"
really.
Player No. 1's police badge flow has become one of the key factors that prevent him from becoming a prophet.
It's no wonder that the good guys use this to hit him. The police badge flow represents the perspective of a prophet. His perspective is wrong, so it's reasonable for the good guys to hit him, regardless of whether he is a prophet or not.
Many people say that you shouldn’t use the Prophet’s badge flow to fight him, after all, everyone has different ideas.
This statement sounds reasonable at first glance, but the police badge style reflects the perspective of a prophet. If we don’t use this to identify a prophet, what do we use? Feelings?
As for his speech, the police badge is an important part of his speech.
And you are right when you say that everyone has different ideas, but as a prophet, your ideas should be consistent with those of the majority, and should be mainstream, not non-mainstream.
Only in this way can good people stand on your side. If you just talk about things that you think are right, and the good people in the external position don’t recognize them, why should they recognize you as a prophet?
"Player 1, if you are really a prophet, the second police badge flow is going to hit the police. You should first play according to the logic that 9 is a good guy. After all, he didn't stand on the side of 7 when he received the gold and water. He is more likely to be a good guy, right?"
“警上开两狼,2、7已经都找出来了,警下开两狼,就在3、5、8、11当中打警徽流啊。”
“你说7、8不共边可以,那就在3、5、11当中验呀,结果你说你要验12号玩家,我都不知道你是咋想的。”
"And what I want to hear most is your definition of the relationship between 7 and 8. You are quite direct and just say that player 7 knows about 8 and suspects that 8 is a wolf, so 7 and 8 don't share the same side. If 8 doesn't follow you, he is the wolf."
"Brother, this is the most superficial logic, right? Do you think this is what I want to hear? As a prophet, you don't intend to discuss the abnormal behavior of the wolf in depth?"
"Player No. 9 said that he was a little suspicious of the 7-8 double wolf, because 7's attitude towards 8 was strange, and he said that he didn't play positional learning, but in fact, playing 7 was positional learning."
"Such an important logic, you should explain it to me. This is what I want to hear the most. For example, if player 7 is a wolf, is he attacking player 8 to make player 8 speak better so that he can hook you, or to make player 8 speak worse so that he can knock you away, or is it that player 7 and player 8 really don't know each other, and player 7 is using the identity of player 8 to trick good people into suspecting that player 7 and player 8 are both wolves?"
"In the end, you didn't understand what I wanted to hear at all. I feel that your thinking and logic are not like those of a prophet at all."
"How should I put it? It gives me the feeling of a mechanical game logic. Whoever Player 7 hits is the good guy, and whoever stands on Player 7's side is the wolf. If only this game was that simple."
Player No. 4 was quite disappointed with Player 1's remarks. There were too many tactics that the Wolves could use, including hooks, cushioning, charges, yin-yang hooks, reverse cushioning, and the good guys standing on the wrong side.
1 should have thought of all these complicated situations. If that's the case, how can he just call the 7th player who stands by 12 a wolf and recognize 8 as a good guy? If he talks like this, which good guy will stand by him?
"I am not satisfied with the badge flow of player 1 and his definition of the identity of player 8. In addition, I think player 9 is a good person. The strength of player 7 is there, and the surface water of player 2 is also acceptable."
"So, I think Ready Player 1 is a tough guy, and Ready Player 7 is a prophet."
"I have the same idea as 2. The only two players that the police can recognize from their speeches are Player 5 and Player 12."
"5 is impossible to play, but 12 may be a hook, so it's not that complicated now."
“9是金水,10号玩家盘7、9可能是双狼,这句话就有匪面,说不定1、10是双狼。”
"Look at 10's side again. If you still use 7 and 9 as double wolves to set the pace, you must go into the wolf pit."
"3, 5, 8, 11 under the police, I estimate that two wolves will appear. Although player 8 is in the wolf pit, he has not yet been voted on, so I will not rush to click on him. I will click on the wolf pit after the police badge ticket type comes out."
"That's all I have to say on the police station. We can discuss the rest slowly off the police station. That's it. Pass."
[The speech for the Sheriff’s election is over, players under the police are invited to start voting]
As soon as player No. 4 passed the microphone, the system's beep sounded.
In an instant, everyone's eyes were cast on police officers 3, 5, 8, and 11.
Player No. 8, in particular, has attracted much attention. After all, he is the card that was sent into the wolf pit at 7 points. Although he has not spoken yet, he has already become the focus.
He voted for player 1, and the good guys could plate him as a hook, and 7 beat him to pull the opposite side to make an identity.
He voted for Player 7, which made the good people suspect that he was a wolf.
This is quite uncomfortable.
No matter what, there is always a point to be a wolf.
There is not much time, and the voting results are out.
3. 5 chooses to vote for player No. 7.
8. 11 chooses to vote for player No. 1.
Two votes against two votes.
This is undoubtedly the best result.
If the number of votes is the same, a tie-breaking speech will be held. In this way, the good guy can listen to 1 and 7 talk for another round, which will help the good guy to stand on the side.
The most important thing is that by using large tickets, you can separate the team of the prophet and the wolf, and then it will be easier to find the wolf.
[Since both parties have the same number of votes, we will now proceed to the tie breaker session]
[Player No. 1 please speak]
"Vote for players 8 and 11 to advance directly to the finals. Unless there are no wolves in the external position or their speeches under the police are particularly explosive, no one is allowed to touch them."
Player No. 1 stood up and first saved 8 and 11 who voted for him. There is nothing wrong with this. The prophet should recognize the good person when he should, and then judge whether the person he recognized is right or wrong based on the other party's subsequent speech.
就比如8、11都是上票给1号玩家的,如果1真是预言家,他就可以暂时认下8、11,警下再听这俩人的发言和上票理由。
If everything goes well, then he should be the good guy on the other side. Otherwise, you should think about whether it is the wolf who is using the hook or the cushion to fly.
"3 and 5 are both on the bandit vote. I can barely understand 3 voting for 7, after all, she is in 7's police badge stream, but 5 voting for 7, the bandit side is very strong."
"I will transfer my second badge to player No. 5 to put some pressure on him, hoping that he will come back to stand by my side. If No. 5 continues to get bandit votes, I will simply stop checking. If I can't find his identity, I will take poison, or I will be stabbed or resisted."
"Player No. 3, I can tell you seriously that you have been voted as a bandit. If you are a good person, turn back quickly and don't be fooled by the comments of players No. 2 and No. 4 into joining the wolf team. If you are a wolf, then just pretend that I didn't say anything and continue to charge."
"But my badge flow won't hit you. I'm still worried about player number 9, so the first badge flow remains unchanged, and I'll still test player number 9."
Player No. 1's first badge flow did not change and was still directed at Gu Feng. He admitted that Gu Feng was a good talker and did not look like a wolf, but he still felt uneasy.
If Gu Feng is really a good person, then there is nothing wrong, but if Gu Feng is a wolf, who can catch him then?
This is the situation that good people fear the most. They clearly suspect him but cannot do anything about it. This is the most helpless thing.
So he had to test Gu Feng, just as if he was going for the double gold water. "Talk to player No. 9. I told you on the police station that you sound like a good person. I guess player No. 7 threw gold water at you just to try to gain strength."
"If my trump card wasn't a prophet, I would definitely recognize you, but now I am a prophet, and you accepted the gold water from the wolf. Even if you didn't stand by him, I still worry about you. Do you understand how I feel?"
"Brother, if you are a good person, I hope you will not be disgusted or resistant to my insistence on testing you. To be honest, I am testing you for the gold and water."
Player No. 1 talked to Gu Feng again. There was no other way. He had to test Gu Feng. In this case, if Gu Feng was a good person, he would definitely be very disgusted with his behavior.
If he doesn't explain and lower his attitude, there is no guarantee that Gu Feng will not stand on the side of player No. 7 and not look back.
"Player No. 2 is my check and kill. His logic in beating me on the police is all strong play."
"First of all, he said that my badge flow was not good, and that I shouldn't check player No. 9 and should just listen to the speech. Sorry, I don't have such a strong listening ability."
"If I can tell whether 9 is a good guy or a wolf, then I don't need to check any of the people in the external position. Isn't it enough to just listen to their speeches?"
"So, what 2 said about being able to define 9's identity just by listening to his speech is pure nonsense. Besides, the identity of player 9 is so sensitive. I didn't even check it and just recognized him. Will good people think that I am a prophet with this mentality?"
"Player No. 9's words and actions on the policeman certainly don't seem like he's meeting with Player No. 7, but the question is, who can guarantee that he's not playing a back-hook?"
"Even if there's only a one in a thousand chance, I'll still test him. As I said before, I'm worried about him accepting the gold water from the Wolf King."
"In terms of reason and emotion, I had no problem using the first badge flow on player No. 9, but player No. 2 used this to attack me. Isn't this just forcing a fight?"
Player No. 1 was right. There was no problem for him to verify Gu Feng with the first police badge.
The experiment did not test Gu Feng, it was completely different for different people.
Some people think that after listening to Gu Feng’s speech, they will not be on the same side with 7, so they can just accept it and there is no need to verify it.
Some people think that the gold and water lost by the wolf must be verified before it can be confirmed.
There is no right or wrong in these two ideas. Player No. 1 belongs to the latter, and Player No. 2 belongs to the former. It is indeed inappropriate for him to attack Player No. 1 by saying that Player No. 1 should not test Gu Feng.
"As for why my second badge flow hit player No. 12, it's actually very simple, it's because player No. 12 insisted on standing next to player No. 7."
“人家9接了金水都不敢说站边7呢,他哪来的逻辑和勇气去站边7的?我肯定怀疑7、12双狼啊。”
"Maybe the three wolves are 2, 7, and 12. Player 12's speech was not good, and his behavior might be that of 7's wolf teammate. I put him in the second police badge flow, so how come he became a bandit?"
"Player No. 2 repeatedly emphasized that I was exposing the bandits. Isn't this just a way to brainwash the good guys and make them think that I was exposing the bandits?"
Obviously, player No. 1 does not think there is anything wrong with his police badge flow, but Gu Feng disagrees. In his opinion, there is something wrong with the fact that No. 1 can use the second police badge flow on No. 12. This perspective is definitely wrong.
No matter whether 7 and 9 are double wolves, 1 can no longer beat 12 as a wolf.
If 12 is a wolf, 2, 7, and 12 are three wolves, or even 2, 7, 9, and 12 are four wolves, in this situation, it is impossible for player 7 to throw gold water to the queen of the police no matter what. He must throw the check and kill the prophet.
Therefore, it is definitely wrong for player No. 1 to use the second badge flow on player 12. If player 1 can take the initiative to admit that there is a problem with this badge flow and correct it, he still thinks that player 1 has the aspect of a prophet. However, if player 1 forcibly explains that there is no problem with his badge flow, then he is going too far.
"Oh, by the way, you all want to hear my definition of the identity of player No. 8 in the police department. I didn't even listen to his speech. Just based on the fact that 7 suspected that 8 might be a wolf, how can I define their relationship? Isn't it that 7 and 8 don't share the same side?"
"As for the issue of the 7th and 8th double wolves, shouldn't we look at the vote pattern of player 8 and listen to his speech before we can make a judgment? Why are you all so anxious?"
"I have to go to great lengths to talk about the relationship between 7 and 8 on the police station. What's the point? 7 and 8 may be twin wolves, or they may not be."
"Now after seeing the votes of player No. 8, I am more inclined to believe that 7 and 8 do not share the same side. 8 is the good guy, a target deliberately set up by player No. 7 to attract the good guy's fire. I hope the good guys don't pay too much attention to 8."
"Player No. 4 is at the end of the alert, standing firmly on the side of No. 7. He follows No. 2's words and attacks me. He has already fallen into my wolf pit. I feel that he is most likely a wolf, and the possibility of him standing on the wrong side of the good guy is very small."
"Finally, click on the wolf pit. 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, six into four, of which 2 and 7 are fixed wolves. If I get the police badge, I will check it out in 3, 4, 5, 12. If I don't get the police badge, then there is nothing I can do."
After listening to the PK speech of player No. 1, Gu Feng felt that No. 1 should be the tough guy and No. 7 was the prophet.
But he always felt something was weird. Player No. 1 didn't do very well in this round. There were obviously problems with his police badge flow and the wolf pit he pointed out. Didn't Player No. 1 realize that?
If 1 knows that he is not doing well in the conversation, then he has other purposes, and he throws a check to player No. 2, so it cannot be ruled out that 1 and 2 are double wolves, and 1 is risking his life to pretend to be 2.
"It seems that we need to pay more attention to Player 2."
Gu Feng thought secretly in his heart.
If this was the tactic the Wolves had discussed at night, it would be difficult for the good guys to guess that player 2 was a wolf. After all, player 2's surface water was really good. Once the good guys chose to stand on the side of player No. 7, player 2 would definitely survive to the end.
The reason why he suspected the 1st and 2nd wolves was simply because he thought too much. He wondered if Player 1 might have deliberately chatted in a mediocre way to make the good people think he was a wolf.
[Player No. 7 please speak]
"After listening to the police's speech, your logic for not taking my side is that I said I don't know how to position myself, but you clicked 8 and fell into the wolf's pit."
"In your opinion, I am a bit of a double-faced person. Moreover, as a prophet, I didn't even listen to 8's speech, but I doubted his identity. I even said that I was going to check him out to kill him. This is a bit unkind. Doesn't it seem that I have a bit of murderous intentions?"
"Then I'll tell you the truth. The reason why I chose player 8 as a wolf is for one purpose only, which is to get votes from the players under the police. In other words, I want to judge who is a good guy and who is a wolf by the votes from the players under the police."
“And now the results are in.”
Hearing this, the good guys were all confused. Isn't this just a lie? What does beating the No. 8 player have to do with who is the wolf and who is the good guy under the police?
"I know you don't understand. In fact, it's extremely risky for me to do this. If I'm not careful, it will ruin the good team. But I believe in the level of everyone here. It shouldn't be a disaster. Sure enough, you didn't let me down."
"Next, I will tell you how I define the identities of other players under the police by hitting 8."
"First of all, I said that player No. 8 is more likely to be a gangster, and is very likely to be a wolf. In the eyes of good people, my remarks are not good. Normally, everyone would think that I am a tough player and want to use player No. 8 as a defense. But there is one thing that no one can understand why I, a tough wolf, would do this to get myself killed."
"Whether 8 is a good guy or a teammate of mine, my first priority is to grab the police badge, but I gave 8's vote to the prophet who came later. This is obviously not in the interests of the Wolves. Now everyone has two choices."
Having said that, 7 paused deliberately, apparently wanting to whet everyone's appetite.
"The first is that I have a deeper purpose in beating Player 8, and I am a prophet by using counter-logic."
"The second type is to not use negative logic but only positive logic, saying that my behavior of calling 8 is not good and does not conform to the mentality of a prophet. As for why I did this since I am a wolf, it doesn't matter. It's for whatever reason. Anyway, if I use positive logic, I can't be a prophet."
"Of these two options, 99 percent of those who choose the first are good people. I dare not say that with certainty, after all, there are exceptions to everything."
"Those who choose the second option may be good people, or they may be wolves who will take advantage of the situation to attack me. For example, I, Jinshui, am a good person and dare not stand by my side. Player No. 10 may be a wolf."
"In this way, won't all my good guy pits and werewolf pits be exposed?"
"Those who voted for me 3 and 5, just acknowledge them directly, without even having to discuss the hook. If they were Wolves, they would definitely seize this opportunity to vote for their Wolves teammates. There is no such thing as a hook."
"8 and 11 voted for the bandit. Player 11 occupies a wolf pit. I can understand why player 8 voted for the bandit. I will give him the greatest tolerance because I took advantage of him and made him feel wronged. I won't say anything to make 8 understand. After I listen to his speech after the police, I will naturally know whether he is a wolf who took advantage of the situation to get votes or a good person who is angry."
"Player 12 was the only one who thought that I had a purpose in attacking player 8, and he was on my side. 12 could recognize it, and the possibility of a backhook was very small. Moreover, player 1 was obviously hostile to player 12. Player 1 and player 12 were not on the same side."
"Player No. 10 took advantage of the situation to attack our 7 and 9 double wolves. The banditry is very large. If the police want to start a wolf, No. 10 is undoubtedly the most suspicious."
Listening to the purpose and logic of the warning of player 7 that point 8 is the wolf, the good guys were stunned. My goodness, what kind of game is this? Is the logic of this game reliable?
“1、8、10、11,这就是我认为的狼坑,如果8号玩家底牌不是狼的话,4、12当中可能会有倒钩。”
"Player No. 2 is a reverse gold player. I can recognize his surface water. He should be a good person. I recognized Player No. 6 as soon as I was on the alert."
"So, I'll use 4 and 12 as my badge style, aiming for the error tolerance rate."
"Okay, that's all I want to say about the PK speech. I'll say it again. Police badge flow 4, 12 tests, that's it, pass." (End of this chapter)
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