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Volume 2: Collapse Rumors Debunked Series
The update will be released before the end of this afternoon. I will release the second batch of the updated content in the morning.
I’m too lazy to take screenshots of some places where the sources are marked. Anyway, I have announced the sources, so I’m definitely not talking nonsense. After all, everyone will know whether I’m talking nonsense or not as soon as they look at the sources.
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Rumor: Otto suppressed the strength of civilization by suppressing technology, so that the collapse was in a state that he could just suppress.
1. To this day, some people still think that Otto has the ability to actively suppress civilization and technology. Okay, let's see what miHoYo and Otto say.
First of all, in order to suppress technology or civilization, you need something to suppress it. So does Otto have something to suppress it?
I must first say that the emergence of this rumor cannot be attributed entirely to the person who spread the rumor.
At least it was mentioned in the official [Second Collapse Chapter 6] Collapse Classroom that the knowledge Otto possesses is far beyond imagination.
This is certainly not a rumor. Otto does have a lot of knowledge, but it is hard to say whether he can use it.
Moreover, having a lot and being able to read them all are two different things. You should know that the Void Wanzang Library has something like indexing permissions.
Continuing down, Picture 1 comes from the Honkai Classroom. In this setting, it is clearly mentioned that Otto can only enter the library of Void Manzang.
According to the 2020 Sword Breaker Q&A, the "these are all yours" mentioned in Figure 1 obviously refers to the conversation when Xu Kong Wan Zang used index permissions to blackmail Otto.
Otto knew that Xukong Wanzang wanted his body, but he did not agree to it. Instead, he suppressed Xukong Wanzang for five hundred years. During these five hundred years, Otto's approach was very simple.
1. The library has no physical presence, so Otto can only use his brain to remember the knowledge he has read, and then rely on his memory to bring the knowledge back to reality.
2. Because he had no authority, Otto could only flip through books one by one in the library.
According to what Otto himself said in the Q&A section of Broken Sword, his evaluation of himself can be seen in the last sentence.
"Under such difficult conditions, I was able to dig out so much information. Isn't this a truly remarkable thing?"
Having this idea is purely because they were led astray by the secondary creation imagination. After all, their ideas are very simple.
Otto has the Void Treasures → The Void Treasures contain all the technologies of previous civilizations → Otto has everything he wants so he has already mastered all the technologies of previous civilizations → Look at the technological level of this world, he is definitely ahead.
He completely ignored [of course he might not even know] the difficulties Otto faced in developing technology in the Void Wanzang Library. Every time he went to the Void Wanzang Library, he flipped through the books like opening a blind box. After reading the contents, he had to remember to come out immediately and record everything he saw that day, and then put it into production and testing.
I think everyone should have an idea of how much time and energy this process requires.
Why in the Post-Destiny Era, Otto, a man who holds the Void Ten Thousand Treasures, asked his subordinates to conduct archaeological research? Because the most information and data obtained from archaeological research is in the Soul-Locking Steel, which might be much easier to take out than working hard to flip through books and open blind boxes from the Void Ten Thousand Treasures.
The rumormonger - Emperor Otto the Great suppressed the whole world, actively suppressed civilization, technology and destruction!
Otto himself - wow, I'm really strong to be able to get these under such difficult conditions!
Actively suppress technology to suppress civilization (×)
I was disgusted by the Void Ten Thousand Treasures and couldn't get much information. I think that Tianming has worked very hard to reach this level of technology (√)
So let me interrupt here with a digression.
I have always felt that Otto's efforts in developing technology is one of his greatest achievements. After all, Honkai Impact 3rd doesn't mean that it won't attack you if you don't develop technology. It is always better to be prepared than to be unprepared.
But it wasn't really his initiative to suppress technology.
If someone wants to brag about who is truly behind the technology, I think it would be more realistic to brag about Void Wanzang rather than Otto.
Of course I know whether they want to brag about a specific person or the person who did this, but I won’t go into details here.
If we have to ask whether Otto has suppressed technology under the impetus of other conditions, then yes, he has.
Nonsense, the people who can make Destiny Technology take off are basically anti-Honkai elites. No matter whether they are good or evil, the anti-Honkai elites have basically been deceived by him. From this point of view, Otto really has the ability to suppress technology, but his methods are really fucking bloody.
As for why I came to this conclusion, it’s mainly because I guess the setting everyone has seen is the Moon Shadow chapter.
So let’s talk about the next rumor.
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Rumor-Otto protected Shenzhou
In fact, this rumor came from the last chapter of the Moon Shadow chapter. There will definitely be a lot of people who think, "Hey, Otto protecting Shenzhou is the official setting, you're talking nonsense."
Let's see what Otto has to say.
Let’s first look at the last chapter of the Moon Shadow arc, where Otto himself said, “As long as the deal is completed, Destiny will always protect Shenzhou.”
The prerequisite is that the transaction is completed, and then the destiny will protect Shenzhou forever.
So did the Mandate of Heaven protect China during these five hundred years?
The answer is obviously no.
20 years later, "Sword Breaking Record of Shenzhou" was released. The setting of "Sword Breaking Record" tells you through Otto that Tianming and Shenzhou did not interfere with each other for years, and the Honkai beasts of Shenzhou were dealt with by the Shenzhou people themselves using mechanical patrols and martial artists.
Yes, I never expected this kind of setting. At least before I saw this setting, I also thought that Otto had protected Shenzhou for five hundred years.
As a result, after this setting came out, the people of Shenzhou became independent and self-reliant, relying on the legacy left by Fu Hua [the secret book modified by the sixth brother Ma Fei Ma using sword energy] and mechanical guards to protect Shenzhou. Tianming and Shenzhou maintained an attitude of non-interference, and there was no such thing as protection.
Then let’s go back to 2018.
The Second Honkai Impact 2018rd comic was released in , which changed the previous plot related to the Second Honkai Impact rd and told you that during the entire Second Honkai Impact rd, Otto was responsible for helping Honkai Impact rd, Sirin was responsible for dealing damage on the front battlefield, and all the members of Anti-Entropy were directly whitewashed.
In the distant setting, the setting of Anti-Entropy during the second collapse was that after Destiny had dealt with the second collapse, Otto took advantage of the situation and was forced to hand over the Thunder of Conquest among the four fragments.
This is also the reason why I said that Anti-Entropy was whitewashed. When I saw this setting in the early years, it really made me feel that the people of Anti-Entropy were not human. After the fight between the Destiny Warriors, Anti-Entropy ran over to steal the spoils. What a beast.
In the finale of the second Honkai Impact 3rd, Otto and Kevin's evaluation was that Sirin's core went berserk and they had to "give up half of Asia". At that time, Siberia was near Shenzhou, and Shenzhou was the first to suffer when its core went berserk.
After reading this book, you should have seen that I mentioned this several times. I will not post any pictures. After all, I can only post ten pictures in a chapter, so the space needs to be used sparingly.
At that time, it spread from Siberia to the surrounding areas, and half of Asia was destroyed. This was the result of the core going out of control.
From a practical point of view, even if Siegfried and his group succeeded in saving the world, the Second Collapse would still lead to drastic changes in Europe and the disintegration of many countries. If half of Asia were destroyed, the whole world would fall into panic.
Of course, this is not the point in this article. The point is that Shenzhou, which is near Siberia, will really be in big trouble.
During the period of 2018-2020, the storyline of the Sky Meteor Arc was also completed.
The Sky Meteor chapter tells everyone that the consequence of Otto releasing Sirin for the second time was that the whole world suffered and tens of millions of people died [last time someone said that 70% of the regions were affected, but I couldn’t find the source, so let’s just use this for now], and Shenzhou was also one of the unlucky ones.
To sum up, after the new plot, several things can be confirmed.
Otto verbally agreed to Fu Hua's help in protecting Shenzhou, provided that Fu Hua completed the transaction.
But in reality, Fu Hua did not complete the deal. After she realized that Otto could even send his beloved Theresa to help Kiana awaken, the deal between her and Otto ended with her rebuke and Otto's shot. Naturally, Otto did not make any thank you gesture like "Destiny will always protect Shenzhou".
In the past five hundred years, because the setting of the Broken Sword Record was determined, he did not help Fu Hua in protecting Shenzhou at all. Shenzhou was protected by the people of Shenzhou themselves during these five hundred years.
Of course, with the fighting power of the Shenzhou people, if they encounter big problems, they will probably still need the help of destiny [referring to the Judgement-level and the Herrscher], but the problem is that Shenzhou has faced three major crises, one of which is not mentioned for now, and the remaining two - the second Collapse in 2000 when Otto almost caused Shenzhou to explode, and the Great Collapse when the Herrscher of the Void was resurrected and awakened, which completely affected Shenzhou and killed a large number of people. These two problems were caused by Otto.
Finally, let me summarize.
According to the setting of The Broken Sword, Otto did not protect Shenzhou, Shenzhou was protected by the Shenzhou people themselves.
The deal between Otto and Fu Hua was not completed [because Fu Hua thought Otto was crazy and didn't help him to the end. I think in Otto's eyes, this probably didn't count as a completed deal], so the subsequent conditions were naturally not met.
In fact, during the transaction between Otto and Fu Hua, whether he wanted to do so or not, he actually indirectly caused two disasters that almost destroyed Shenzhou.
The first was the second collapse when old Yang Siegfried Cecilia burned her life to clean up Otto's mess, and the second was when Shenzhou mentioned in the Sky Meteor chapter was obviously affected.
Not only did he fail to protect Shenzhou, but he indirectly caused considerable casualties in Shenzhou.
As for the other of the three disasters that Shenzhou faced, it was the one in the Nine Netherworlds chapter.
But the problem is, the reason why Chi You almost had a chance to come out in the Nine Netherworlds is because...
——The protagonists are messing around.
In the previous book, Raven broke the two seals of Danzhu and Cangxuan, but in the original book, it was the protagonists who broke them.
The plot at that time was that the protagonists mistakenly thought that it was a heart and so they took action. However, after they dismantled it, Chi You was able to move again. It was only because the protagonists finally dealt with Ji Lin and Chi You that they would have been in trouble. Otherwise, the people of Shenzhou would have been in trouble.
I hope everyone will be careful when going out to work. Just look at Fu Hua. She worked like a slave for Otto for hundreds of years just for insurance, but in the end she found out that her boss's actions almost demolished the place she wanted to protect.
Although this was not Otto's original intention, it was hellish enough.
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Rumor - Xilin originally just wanted to resolve the destiny issue, but because Walter's negotiations failed many times, Xilin turned her gun on humans.
This is really the hardest episode to watch.
Let us first look at the plot of the second Honkai Impact 3rd comic.
After turning evil, Xilin did attack the members of the Destiny first, but what did she say before she met Walter?
When Xilin met Theresa, she had not yet met Walter. What did she say to Theresa at that time?
[How about becoming my subordinate? If so, I will let you live until the day the world is destroyed.]
Yes, before she met Walter, she was ready to destroy the world.
In addition, after Walter and Xilin met, Walter briefly introduced that the imaginary spear was useless to him, and then said a very simple sentence.
My name is Walter, and I am a Herrscher like you. I came here hoping to have a good talk with you.
Gone.
Then Sirin was told by the Honkai God that Walter was a traitor and started to take action immediately.
If Xilin is considered as a terrorist who has been manipulated into a dark side by someone, then Lao Yang, the firefighter, is the unlucky guy who has suffered a great loss.
After the Herrscher appeared, he immediately joined forces with his enemy's boss, Destiny, to resolve the world crisis. He saved his enemy's granddaughter Theresa without being modest, and then covered his comrade Siegfried's retreat and was ready to have a good chat with Sirin. However, after introducing himself in one sentence, he was beaten up because Sirin was instructed by the God of Honkai.
Can this be blamed on Lao Yang? I wonder if he didn't read the plot or is he just being mean? ? ?
Next, let’s look at the plot and settings.
There will definitely be people who will say, Walter, you shouldn't have declared war on Xilin in the name of humanity, you failed in the negotiation.
Let’s take a look at the plot setting later.
In the ninth chapter of the second Honkai Impact 3rd comic, it was clearly mentioned that Xilin was going to kill Lao Yang. After Lao Yang used human weapons to counterattack, Xilin shouted the following lines in embarrassment.
[Shamelessly using human weapons. 】
[Don't be ridiculous. How could human weapons harm God? ]
【Let me tell you how vulnerable human weapons are. 】
Walter then made the following response when Xilin was furious.
[As long as I am alive, this army will not fall. ]
[This is the weapon created by humans, this is the civilization created by humans. ]
[I, Walter, challenge you on behalf of mankind. ]
[God, come and test whether humans are qualified to live! ]
The above is the original line. Unless I made a typo, there should be no changes.
By the way, some settings are also mentioned in the Collapse Classroom in this chapter.
{It's no wonder that Xilin is so angry at Walter. As a [Civilization Destroyer], she neither recognizes the value of civilization nor has she been hurt by civilization's technology.}
{If Walter represents civilization, then Xilin is the victim of civilization and the revenge against civilization.}
Based on the above plot and settings, it is not difficult to see some actual situations that are completely different from the rumors.
It was not Lao Yang who was provoking. In fact, from the very beginning, it was Xilin who took the initiative to kill. It was Xilin who denied humanity in a rage after failing to kill. Lao Yang's words of declaring war on behalf of humanity were made when Xilin was jumping up and down in anger after failing to kill. Walter responded to Xilin's angry statement.
At the same time, the setting clearly points out that Xilin's revenge is against civilization - this is all due to the fateful Tower of Babylon that messed up her mentality. Even from the stigmata plot in Xilin's game, the strange disease only appeared in her hometown after the Tower of Babylon was built. I won't post pictures here, if you are interested, you can go to Miyoushe to check the stigmata story setting of the dormitory.
It could be said that everything that happened to everyone in Xilin's hometown was due to Otto, even before she was tricked into doing human experiments.
No one here should come out and say something like "Walter shouldn't use human weapons to provoke Xilin", right?
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