They both realized the other's identity.

Although they are not in the same world, demons can ultimately reach the same goal, and Rias had sensed a similar aura on Makima.

And those were all not very good things.

This made Rias somewhat wary.

Caution is the boat.

Not everyone in this group is necessarily a good person.

Chapter 220 Machima's Secret

However, Rias also has her own pride.

As the successor to the Gremory family head, judging from the strength Makima has shown in the anime, she is confident that she can subdue them.

Of course, in the best-case scenario, she wouldn't want to fight Machima.

After all, they were all members of the same chat group.

Ideally, no conflict should occur.

While they were talking to each other, Machima kept her attention on Rosen.

After all, in her eyes, Rosen's presence was becoming increasingly significant.

Just by looking at it, one can feel a sense of oppression from a higher level of life.

"Don't look so serious. We're not exactly strangers, and besides, you're the one who asked us to solve this problem. If you're too reserved, it will affect their morale."

Rosen said with a light laugh.

He could sense the unease in Machima's heart.

However, this is probably because the demons here are seeing God for the first time.

after all.

In the world of Chainsaw Man, there are only demons, and gods and immortals only exist in legends.

Rosen still remembered a winged being with a halo above its head, who looked just like an angel.

When it first appeared, the villagers worshipped it as a messenger sent by God. However, it was soon discovered, and anyone who came into contact with this "angel" would die.

Over time, people began to avoid them, and the so-called angels were nothing more than demons disguised as angels.

After three rounds of wine, five flavors of food.

Therefore, the dinner table has always been one of the ways to build closer relationships.

After twenty minutes, Tokisaki Kurumi and Rias had become quite familiar with Lawson and the others.

"So when can we go and play with those demons?"

Gabriel asked while drinking her beverage.

"Demons don't always appear. They often hide in the shadows. Only a very small number of demons reincarnated from hell cause trouble in public because they have no memory of their past."

Machima explained with a smile.

"If we want to see demons, we don't need to go looking for them. Didn't Miss Machima say that she is being assassinated by various countries? When the time comes, those assassins will definitely come to our door, and we will be able to meet those demons."

Fubuki crossed her arms, highlighting her two large thunderbolts as she spoke.

"After all, those assassins also used demonic power, didn't they?"

"By the way, Miss Machima, I've always had a question: when you deal with demonic calamities, do you also use demonic power? Don't you have any other methods? For example, magic or spells?"

Saeko Busujima asked curiously.

She had had this question for a long time.

"Some demons can be dealt with using firearms alone, but they lack supernatural abilities such as magic and spells, in addition to demonic power."

"Machima said softly."

Her voice was very soft and steady, easily giving people the impression of a reliable boss.

"As early as World War I, after the first demon appeared, countries searched the world for anything other than demons. But unfortunately, even those temples, ancient ruins, and ancient artifacts, anything with extraordinary abilities, were essentially demonic power."

"Therefore, the power we use against the demons is also related to demons. Otherwise, it would be impossible to stop the demonic disaster with just human power."

"Of course, besides official organizations like ours, there are also many civilian demon hunters who use the same demonic power."

"The world is descending upon the bizarre, and I alone can contract with countless of them!"

Gabriel suddenly interrupted, seemingly out of nowhere.

Everyone looked at her.

Gabriel chuckled awkwardly, "Sorry, I read a novel before, and the setting is similar to this world. The people there control the supernatural, while the people here command demons."

The others remained silent, but didn't say anything more, as they were already used to Gabriel's unconventional personality.

"So, gentlemen, would you like to go for a walk outside after you've finished eating?"

Machima said politely.

"No need. Although this is another world, it's still Tokyo, and Tokyo isn't much different from other cities in other worlds..."

Rosen shook his head.

Liana, Kurumi Tokisaki, and Fubuki all nodded.

There's really not much to do wander around in a simple city.

However, I've heard that the world of Frillian and Marusir is quite interesting, so I'll have to go and visit it sometime.

Marushir and Frilian did have this idea, but seeing that Rosen had already said so, they didn't express their opinion on wanting to go out for a stroll.

Moreover, they usually stay there for a while after each mission, so there's no rush to go out and have fun.

“Marushir, let’s watch them eat.”

There were still many desserts in front of Frillie.

Even during meals, she didn't touch the meat with her chopsticks, only eating some fruit, while she ate all the cakes and creams.

"Okay, I happen to have some questions about magic that I'd like to ask you."

Marusir often exchanges magic with Frilian in private, and they have both learned a lot of magic from this other world.

Frilian was very interested in Marusir's dark magic, while Marusir was particularly fond of magic that could remove dust from clothes and magic that could turn cold water into hot tea.

The two elves ate their desserts and exchanged ideas, while also listening with their other ear to the more serious matters that Rosen and the others were discussing.

"Miss Machima, you said in 3.9 that assassins from various countries would come to assassinate you. What exactly did you do?"

Rias asked in a deep voice.

Kurumi Tokisaki was also very curious.

"Let me explain."

Next, Fubuki summarized what Makima had said before.

After hearing this, both Rias and Kurumi Tokisaki showed expressions of astonishment.

Especially Rias.

I previously thought Machima was extremely cunning and that I needed to be wary of her causing trouble in secret. But I never expected that this woman with a demonic aura would have such lofty ideas.

Claires thought for a few seconds and said, "I admire Miss Makima's ideals, but to be honest, your wish is difficult, or rather, impossible to fulfill."

Chapter 221 Even God Can't Do It?

Machima wasn't surprised; she simply nodded slightly and asked, "Please speak."

The other party is both a group member and the heir of a pure-blooded demon family of the seventy-two pillars of the underworld in another world.

According to the anime, even a pure-blooded family under the Demon King possesses a territory roughly the size of a country, wielding immense power.

Moreover, Rias's brother is Lucifer, the Demon Lord of the Underworld.

Although his performance in the original work was somewhat poor, he also showed his true talent after getting back on track.

Compared to governing a country, Machima is clearly inferior to her.

“Miss Machima’s ambition is indeed grand and lofty, but you probably haven’t considered what the world would be like after those demons who control all the rules, as you say, are eliminated.”

"Isn't it a utopia where everyone can live and work in peace and contentment?"

"Utopia is just a legendary term. If those rules were eliminated, humans on Earth would have no desires or thoughts. Would that really be utopia? Even the God of the Bible could not do such a thing."

"Even God can't do it? But I learned from the book that God created the Garden of Eden, an ideal world without pain, sin, and death."

At this point, several people looked at Rosen in unison.

This is especially true for Machima.

Rosen was somewhat surprised as well.

He originally intended for Makima to understand the truth on her own after she realized it, but unexpectedly, Rias stepped forward and directly revealed it.

In that case, Rosen also shared his own perspective.

"Eden is not a utopia. It is the ideal world created by God for people who can live without working because God provides them with everything they need. But even so, utopia always describes Eden, not the humans living in it."

“I know that Adam and Eve were tricked by the serpent into eating the forbidden fruit and were eventually expelled from the Garden of Eden, symbolizing that mankind lost its innocence and was burdened with suffering and toil. But what I want to do is eliminate the suffering in the world. Once mankind loses those things, won’t it be possible to build a utopia?”

"As for your needs, I will try my best to provide them."

"So what are you going to offer? Anyone can talk big!"

This wasn't said by Rosen, but by Gabriel.

She had already come to regard Rosen as God in her heart, that is, her most loyal boss.

Seeing that Machima, this devil, dared to contradict Rosen, he was naturally a little annoyed.

As for Utopia.

She had learned this concept when she was in the Heavenly Realm Elementary School.

Utopia does not exist, but Eden does.

"I can make factories run 24 hours a day to produce food and other human necessities."

"How are those resources extracted?"

"The machine can be used."

Who operates the machine?

"Autonomous driving."

Who will manufacture the machines?

"Machine manufacturing".

"?"

In the end, even Machima realized her own problem.

This is just like the unsolvable question of whether the chicken or the egg came first.

"I still reserve my opinion: as long as all concepts that can hinder or cause suffering are eliminated, utopia will be built."

Hear this.

Gabriel sighed.

"You think God couldn't do it?"

"God is omnipotent, so naturally He can do it."

Machima nodded slightly.

The God in the Bible is omnipotent; He created the world in just seven days, so He could naturally eliminate suffering as well.

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