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Tang Hua: "In a few years, at most 10 years, at that time we will have steel, machinery, materials, funds, manpower, and the help of the Soviet Union. And the external conditions of your Shipbuilding Industry Bureau have been met. , you have to make things out, and then the Shipping Bureau will have no objective reason to shirk. Wow..."

The conversation with Luo Shuping was interrupted, and Tang Hua let out a "wow" when he looked at a large pile of hull components piled up in the open air more than 100 meters away.

"Leningrad, factory 189, the second ship of the Stalingrad class."

Chapter 213, you need 10-12 billion rubles

Tang Hua, Commander Xiao, Luo Shunchu, Lin Taizhen, and Luo Shuping were drooling as they leaned on the railing to look at the dock next door.

"I can see Minister Tang's point. The keel of this ship is indeed not simple, and the length is at least 250 meters."

"It's definitely more than 250 meters long. Looking at this dock, it's almost 300 meters long."

"The pile over there may be the armor plate to be installed. It can be seen from such a distance that it has a thickness. It is estimated to be more than 200mm."

Tang Hua was also moved when he looked at the parts of this big ship that was about to board the berth.

First of all, I feel that it is already in the 20s, and the Soviet Union has started construction of new large artillery cruisers, or battlecruisers.

The second is feeling so poor.Before the delegation came to the Soviet Union, the psychological preparation was to spend 5 million rubles. Tang Hua knew that the most likely to get 9 million rubles, 6 million of which was a loan.And the cost of this Stalingrad-class ship is... 11.6 billion rubles.

This strange large cruiser has a standard row of 305, and its tonnage has already caught up with North Carolina and Nanda, but its armor is far behind that of a battleship, and its speed is fast.The [-]-ton ship's main gun has a caliber of only [-] mm, a drug-addicted gun with a strong charge and a long barrel.

After much deliberation, the Stalingrad class and China have nothing to do with each other, and they can't afford it, let alone use it.

The reason for building the Stalingrad class is said to be that Stalin liked large warships.So as soon as Stalin died, this project was over, and the construction of the "Stalingrad" that Nikolaev had launched was suspended, and it was first used as a target ship and then dismantled and returned to the furnace.The No. [-] ship "Moscow" and the No. [-] ship "Kronstadt" in front of us were dismantled at the berth.

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"From May 5th to May 4th, I had three talks with comrades from the Chinese delegation."

Tang Hua and his party left Leningrad, and Kuznetsov wrote a telegram to Stalin.

"The naval construction plan listed by the Chinese comrades needs to purchase about 6 to 7 million rubles of ships and equipment from the Soviet Union. During the talks, the Chinese comrades frankly admitted that the plan they formulated took into account that some projects would be used by our side. It was rejected on the grounds that it was not convenient for export, so some project proposals were added to it.”

"However, in my opinion, even if the naval construction plan listed by the Chinese comrades is fully implemented, this plan is far from enough for the current Chinese navy. They want to defend China's coastline and break through the blockade of the US Navy Capture Taiwan. If the Chinese comrades follow this strategic conception, then their naval construction plan is too small."

"I have made suggestions to them to further expand their naval construction plan. First of all, regardless of whether they are planning to attack Taiwan or not, the defense system along China's coast must be completed, and the naval fleet formation they plan now is not enough to defend Dagukou, Tianjin, Weihai, Qingdao and other northern ports. As for the southeast coast of China, although they plan to attack Taiwan from here, the cities in this area, such as Shanghai, also need coastal defense forces. The obvious example is that in February 1952, the Kuomintang troops landed Landed on a small island in Zhejiang, although these troops were quickly wiped out by the Chinese ground forces, they landed successfully after all."

“中国应该在重点海港城市建设6到7个海岸炮兵阵地，每个阵地配置15门100毫米以上口径的要塞炮。我支持他们修复和改造‘重庆’号巡洋舰的计划，除此之外他们需要4~6艘舰队驱逐舰。”

"Chinese comrades have shown interest in small submarines and proposed a plan to build a submarine shipyard in Wuchang. I personally appreciate this plan very much. Wuchang is like Nizhny Novgorod on the Volga. Submarines can be transported from Wuchang. Surface sailing to Shanghai and into the ocean. I think we should send a team of shipbuilding experts to China and help them set up a shipyard in Wuchang."

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The Nikolaev Shipyard, also known as the Black Sea Shipyard, was established in 1895 as the main shipyard of the Soviet Navy and is now one of the largest shipyards in Europe.

The shock that Commander Xiao and Tang Hua encountered in Leningrad was experienced again in Nikolayev, and the intensity of the shock was about 1.5 times that in Leningrad.

"Commander Xiao, the big ships we saw in Leningrad are completely unaffordable for China. But we may be able to afford the one we see now. If our 'Chongqing' is sure that it cannot be repaired, Then you can spend some money to buy a Type 68 from the Soviet Union, also known as the "Sverdlov" class light cruiser." Tang Hua said, "However, the Soviet Union's "Sverdlov" class is more advanced than the 'Chongqing'. The number is much more expensive, after all, it is equipped with 12 152mm main guns.

At the Nikolayev Shipyard, the "Sverdlov" class "Dzerzhinsky" is being outfitted, and it looks like it will be delivered to the Soviet Navy by the end of the year.

"Minister Tang, I see a very long hull over there, the skeleton has already taken shape, it seems to be the same type as the large ship I saw in Leningrad."

Tang Hua followed Lin Taizhen's eyes and saw the "Stalingrad", the first ship of the "Stalingrad" class.

"In the shipbuilding industry of the Soviet Union, capital ships have always been double-insured or even triple-insured. This kind of warship can be built in the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea, and sometimes the shipyard of the Pacific Fleet can also build it together." Tang Hua said, "In this way, in the future During the war, when a large region of the Soviet Union was invaded and cities and shipyards were unable to operate, the ports and shipyards in the other direction could continue to produce.”

Luo Shunchu: "The structure of the Soviet shipbuilding industry is indeed very good. Several distant shipbuilding complexes can independently build ships, reducing the risk of war damage. Should we also build ships in Dalian, Shanghai, and Guangzhou……"

Luo's book review: "Deputy Commander Luo, several shipyards in the Soviet Union are located in several seas, and our cities are all in the Pacific Ocean. It is incomparable. If the U.S. Navy can blow up Dalian, it will definitely be able to blow up Shanghai and Shanghai at the same time. Guangzhou."

Luo Shunchu: "..."

Tang Hua: "Haha. Lao Luo's idea can also be implemented, but it is not to reduce the risk of war damage, but to promote the shipbuilding industry in these three regions at the same time, and then drive the industrial development of the region... Look over there, Nigeria Guraev's submarine workshop."

The other four looked towards the closed area at the corner of the shipyard.

Tang Hua: "There should be a medium-sized fleet submarine for the Soviet Navy. The Type 613 is much larger than the Type S we want to buy, with a weight of more than 300 tons and a battery life of more than [-] nautical miles. It is a real ocean-going submarine. It is a pity that this is the most The Soviet Union may not be willing to give us new fleet submarines, at least not now."

Luo Shu Review: "We may not be able to make it even if we are given technical information."

Tang Hua: "That's true. If the establishment of Wuchang Shipyard is approved, let's start with small submarines first."

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After the visit, the delegation returned to Moscow, where Tang Hua also met Stalin for the first time as a Chinese representative.

"Ludagang can strengthen China's coastal defense. If you feel that the northern coastline is not safe enough, the Soviet naval base in Ludagang should be maintained for a few more years."

After Stalin met, the first thing he talked about was the issue of the Soviet base in Ludagang.

"According to the agreement between Mao and me in February 1950, we will gradually withdraw our troops from Ludagang and finally hand them over to you. Later, there was a war in North Korea, and the situation is still very tense. When the situation changes, what we have negotiated before It can also be adjusted."

Commander Xiao: "Chairman Stalin, regarding the extension of the Soviet naval base in Luda, you can propose to the Chairman and Prime Minister that the Soviet Union use Luda Port for an extension."

Stalin: "The initiative to extend the joint use of Luda Port should be put forward by you, because the Soviet Union is a guest. Guests should not raise these issues."

Commander Xiao took down Stalin's opinion and said that the embassy would send a report to the country when he returned today.

As long as there are Soviet warships at Luda Naval Base, it is unlikely that the United States will conduct an amphibious landing on the west coast of North Korea.

When the Soviet Navy withdrew from Luda, it transferred the equipment of the entire Luda Port, some small boats that could not go out to sea but the Soviet Union was too lazy to use large roll-on ships, and port ships to China. That is, in 1955, the Chinese Navy suddenly increased. A modern naval base.

In short, this is a good deal, and it is enough to discuss the discount carefully when discussing the transfer of port facilities.

The only difficulty is the two sensitive issues of "the continued presence of foreign troops on Chinese territory" and "the possible extension of the period of foreign troops stationed in China", which can only continue to exist.

Commander Xiao: "Our side has gone through many detailed analysis and deduction. If the United States conducts an amphibious landing, it can deploy 4 to 5 United Nations military divisions to land behind us, and there will be large-scale airborne operations. Because the Soviet Navy In the deterrent effect of the Yellow Sea, it is unlikely that they will land on the west coast, but the possibility of an amphibious landing on the east coast, especially the port north of Wonsan, is more likely. I don’t know if the Soviet Pacific Fleet can attack the United States in the Sea of ​​​​Japan The Navy conducts the same diversion operation."

Stalin: "Comrade Chief of Staff Shtemenko gave me a report. If the United States lands on the east coast of Korea, it is not because it does not need to worry about interception by the Soviet navy in the Sea of ​​Japan, but because the defense of the east coast of Korea is comparatively weaker." Empty, you have too few ground troops deployed there, and the U.S. military has an opportunity to take advantage of it. At sea, regardless of the Sea of ​​Japan or the Yellow Sea, the Soviet Navy will maintain a presence and maintain some kind of balance with the U.S. at sea. But the Soviet Union will not be directly involved at the moment Korean War."

Then Tang Hua and Luo Shunchu asked Stalin about the purchase of warships and the establishment of China's modern shipbuilding industry.Regarding these technical details, after Stalin listened to it, he said a word and passed it.Sometimes I just nodded, and the secretary next to me said that there was no need to talk any more, and Stalin agreed.

"China should be the arsenal of the communist camp in the east. Xu's delegation talked to me about the arms industry last year. Xu told me that on the Korean battlefield, the U.S. military fired five shells before we could return one. I told him that when the Americans fired 5 shells, the Chinese comrades should shoot them 1 shells." Stalin continued, "This is our style. Like the tank and artillery industry, it is necessary for China to plan to build an effective The size of the navy, and in five years to complete the plan to take over the role of our naval base at Luda."

Commander Xiao: "Before we discussed with Commander Kuznetsov and Deputy Chief of Staff Fagin, Fagin suggested that we expand the naval construction plan. But this requires expanding the scale of the loan. We have only prepared 3 Hundreds of millions of rubles in cash, if more funds are needed for naval construction, then Soviet assistance or an increase in the loan amount will be needed.”

After Commander Xiao finished speaking, Stalin listened to what the interpreter said, thought about it, and said in a very affirmative tone:

"You need a naval construction package of 10 to 12 billion rubles."

Chapter 214, Naval Plan Finalized

In 1952, the Soviet Union would definitely support China in establishing a modern national defense system. If something went wrong in the Soviet aid, it must be because the Soviet Union had difficulties in its own industrial production capacity or failed to coordinate the production schedule.