March Simulation: I Pushed One Piece World Sideways
Chapter 199 hint
Chapter 199 hint
The Nine-Tails attack incident created by Madara eventually became the catalyst for the genocide case. Was Madara doing it on purpose or by accident?
First of all, it should be explained that the event that Madara created Nine Tails to attack Konoha is still an inconclusive event, but I think this incident was made by Madara.
In fact, Madara did it intentionally or unintentionally.In fact, in the general environment at that time when Uchiha and Konoha had a grudge.
As long as Kyuubi appears, it will inevitably deepen Konoha's suspicion of Uchiha.
In addition, we have to see that this kind of suspicion will only appear when the Nine-Tails attack fails.
The reason is simple, if the Kyuubi attack is successful, Konoha will cease to exist.
In other words, when Madara was planning to attack the village with Nine Tails, he relied on his own understanding of the village and the Uchiha clan.
It is completely possible to take into account some of the possible impact of your own failure.
And these negative effects on the Uchiha clan are also beneficial to his revenge plan.
During the whole incident, Madara just needs to continue to keep his identity a secret, and try not to let Konoha's people suspect him.
Then Madara planned and implemented the incident of Kyuubi's attack on Konoha, the more likely situation is that Madara was prepared for both success and failure.
If it succeeds, it will destroy Konoha in one fell swoop; if it fails, at least it can severely damage Konoha, and at the same time deepen Konoha's suspicion of the Uchiha family.
So I think it doesn't matter whether Madara did it on purpose or not.Because, the outcome of the Nine-Tails attack is not something Madara can control at all, and Madara can only make two-handed preparations at most.
And the final result, we also know that the fourth generation successfully quelled the Nine Tails Rebellion.
In other words, from the moment of failure, Madara began to turn his attention to the irreconcilable contradiction between the tribe and Konoha.
Conclusion: I think that the Nine-Tails incident created by Madara does not have a long-term premeditated nature compared to the genocide incident.
Only in the subsequent activities, Madara must have strengthened the use of the contradiction between Konoha and the Uchiha clan.
In addition, as to why Madara lied to Sasuke on this matter, I think the reason is very simple, because the Kyuubi incident was the catalyst for the genocide incident.
Whether Madara is intentional or not, there is no doubt that this incident will arouse Sasuke's great resentment, which he does not want to see.
Therefore, his choice was to lie and say it was a natural disaster.
Why did Madara make a loss-making deal with Itachi.
The revenge deal between Madara and Itachi before the genocide case has been described in detail above.That is what Itachi proposed, to exchange the lives of the clan for the safety of the village.
It can be said that it is very risky for Madara and Itachi to exterminate the genocide.
As far as the situation he was in at the time, he should keep his identity a secret, if Konoha once pointed the finger at himself.
So in a sense, it also provides room for relaxation of the conflict between the Uchiha clan and the village.
Of course, this also depends on the attitude of the Uchiha clan towards Madara, so I won't dig deep here.
The key is that Madara not only accepted such a deal, but the genocide case went smoothly in the end, and Konoha also returned to his usual calm.
The whole process seems to tell us that Madara did as the content of the transaction said, at least temporarily complied with Itachi's conditions, and did not go back on his word.
So how to understand this loss-making business?three possibilities
lie
Madara lied about the plot.To be honest, if there's a lie to be made here, it's a bit superfluous.
Because about this episode, no one forced Madara to tell it. If it would cause more doubts, it would be better not to tell it.
So I think this is not so much a lie as a concealment, concealing my deeper purpose.
Exchange small losses for greater benefits
This kind of example is very common. First, let the other party feel that it is profitable, and then wait until the other party is paralyzed, and then take the opportunity to obtain greater benefits.
Then in this incident, Madara was obviously not an equivalent exchange with Itachi, and it seemed that Madara was losing money.
Does this phenomenon imply to us that Madara can obtain greater benefits through this transaction?What is this benefit?
paranoid avenger
This scenario assumes that Madara is totally a paranoid Avenger.We all know the Avengers usually have this mentality.
Just insist on killing the enemy with your own hands, that is to say, you have to kill yourself, and you will not be happy if others kill him.
Is it possible for Madara to just watch the battle between the Uchiha clan and Konoha is not enough, and revenge needs a little revenge.
Now that there is an opportunity to kill the clansmen, let's kill first.This kind of assumption is not invariable. It is really hard to say whether Madara is such a pervert.
Yu's point of view: Itachi was accused of being a traitor for the sake of the family's reputation and the ninja world.
Everyone sees these few things Itachi has to choose to exterminate the genocide:
1. Uchiha is really about to betray
There will be no one from Konoha's senior management to rehabilitate Itachi, but this is exactly what Itachi hopes.Itachi doesn't want more people to know the truth about the genocide. What is the truth?
Only Uchiha is going to betray.Itachi would rather bear the crime himself than let the family be stained.
2. Uchiha's betrayal is what Madara wanted.
It is Danzo's plan to eliminate the Uchiha tribe, and Danzo's plan is just to seize power.And Madara's plan does involve world control.
In contrast, Itachi chose to exterminate the genocide.Madara's plan was thwarted.
From the genocide remarks, we can see that the two people's statements are completely different.
Let me state my point first, I think Itachi is lying.
First of all, Itachi's position is to stand on the side of Konoha.It can be seen from the fact that he can exterminate the whole family for Konoha.
Therefore, his purpose is to eliminate spots.Since the whole family can be exterminated for the sake of Konoha, then it is nothing to tell a little lie.
The reason why Itachi said this was to make Sasuke hate Madara.Then use Sasuke's hatred to kill Madara once.
In this way, Konoha eliminated another huge threat.
Madara's position is to oppose Konoha and re-establish the Uchiha family.As the person who betrayed Konoha, why did he still help Konoha?
How to do it.It is said that the purpose of the Konoha family is to betray Konoha. As a fellow clan, there is no reason to destroy fellow clan members who have the same will as themselves.
Itachi's remarks, his position has been said to be centered on Konoha, so we can get 3 points:
Shape Madara into a brother who is as hateful as himself.Let Sasuke's hatred deepen.
Madara didn't tell him these detailed details. He narrated the matter from his own standpoint. (It's a bit YY, it's just a hypothesis.).
Madara told him so.
Madara's remarks, according to the situation at the time, I think this statement has some loopholes.first.
The elder brother who is about to go blind can dedicate his eyes to the younger brother, because Madara overuses the power of the kaleidoscope, which is the punishment he deserves,
The younger brother who knows how to restrain the use of this dangerous power becomes the one who protects the family.This is more reasonable, and it is not said in the comics that Madara's talent is not as good as Madara's.discuss this
The answer can be known from the question of time. The time when Madara and Konoha confronted each other was the time when the first generation was in power, and when the first generation was in power, they dueled with the first generation.
Shortly after the duel, the second generation succeeded.It was not until the 2th generation took office that the Nine Tails incident occurred 4 years ago.
I think the Nine-Tails incident 16 years ago really has nothing to do with Madara, because it was as early as the time when the first generation fought, Nine-Tails were summoned.
Then he should be blind, so he can't summon Nine-Tails, let alone control them.
(End of this chapter)
The Nine-Tails attack incident created by Madara eventually became the catalyst for the genocide case. Was Madara doing it on purpose or by accident?
First of all, it should be explained that the event that Madara created Nine Tails to attack Konoha is still an inconclusive event, but I think this incident was made by Madara.
In fact, Madara did it intentionally or unintentionally.In fact, in the general environment at that time when Uchiha and Konoha had a grudge.
As long as Kyuubi appears, it will inevitably deepen Konoha's suspicion of Uchiha.
In addition, we have to see that this kind of suspicion will only appear when the Nine-Tails attack fails.
The reason is simple, if the Kyuubi attack is successful, Konoha will cease to exist.
In other words, when Madara was planning to attack the village with Nine Tails, he relied on his own understanding of the village and the Uchiha clan.
It is completely possible to take into account some of the possible impact of your own failure.
And these negative effects on the Uchiha clan are also beneficial to his revenge plan.
During the whole incident, Madara just needs to continue to keep his identity a secret, and try not to let Konoha's people suspect him.
Then Madara planned and implemented the incident of Kyuubi's attack on Konoha, the more likely situation is that Madara was prepared for both success and failure.
If it succeeds, it will destroy Konoha in one fell swoop; if it fails, at least it can severely damage Konoha, and at the same time deepen Konoha's suspicion of the Uchiha family.
So I think it doesn't matter whether Madara did it on purpose or not.Because, the outcome of the Nine-Tails attack is not something Madara can control at all, and Madara can only make two-handed preparations at most.
And the final result, we also know that the fourth generation successfully quelled the Nine Tails Rebellion.
In other words, from the moment of failure, Madara began to turn his attention to the irreconcilable contradiction between the tribe and Konoha.
Conclusion: I think that the Nine-Tails incident created by Madara does not have a long-term premeditated nature compared to the genocide incident.
Only in the subsequent activities, Madara must have strengthened the use of the contradiction between Konoha and the Uchiha clan.
In addition, as to why Madara lied to Sasuke on this matter, I think the reason is very simple, because the Kyuubi incident was the catalyst for the genocide incident.
Whether Madara is intentional or not, there is no doubt that this incident will arouse Sasuke's great resentment, which he does not want to see.
Therefore, his choice was to lie and say it was a natural disaster.
Why did Madara make a loss-making deal with Itachi.
The revenge deal between Madara and Itachi before the genocide case has been described in detail above.That is what Itachi proposed, to exchange the lives of the clan for the safety of the village.
It can be said that it is very risky for Madara and Itachi to exterminate the genocide.
As far as the situation he was in at the time, he should keep his identity a secret, if Konoha once pointed the finger at himself.
So in a sense, it also provides room for relaxation of the conflict between the Uchiha clan and the village.
Of course, this also depends on the attitude of the Uchiha clan towards Madara, so I won't dig deep here.
The key is that Madara not only accepted such a deal, but the genocide case went smoothly in the end, and Konoha also returned to his usual calm.
The whole process seems to tell us that Madara did as the content of the transaction said, at least temporarily complied with Itachi's conditions, and did not go back on his word.
So how to understand this loss-making business?three possibilities
lie
Madara lied about the plot.To be honest, if there's a lie to be made here, it's a bit superfluous.
Because about this episode, no one forced Madara to tell it. If it would cause more doubts, it would be better not to tell it.
So I think this is not so much a lie as a concealment, concealing my deeper purpose.
Exchange small losses for greater benefits
This kind of example is very common. First, let the other party feel that it is profitable, and then wait until the other party is paralyzed, and then take the opportunity to obtain greater benefits.
Then in this incident, Madara was obviously not an equivalent exchange with Itachi, and it seemed that Madara was losing money.
Does this phenomenon imply to us that Madara can obtain greater benefits through this transaction?What is this benefit?
paranoid avenger
This scenario assumes that Madara is totally a paranoid Avenger.We all know the Avengers usually have this mentality.
Just insist on killing the enemy with your own hands, that is to say, you have to kill yourself, and you will not be happy if others kill him.
Is it possible for Madara to just watch the battle between the Uchiha clan and Konoha is not enough, and revenge needs a little revenge.
Now that there is an opportunity to kill the clansmen, let's kill first.This kind of assumption is not invariable. It is really hard to say whether Madara is such a pervert.
Yu's point of view: Itachi was accused of being a traitor for the sake of the family's reputation and the ninja world.
Everyone sees these few things Itachi has to choose to exterminate the genocide:
1. Uchiha is really about to betray
There will be no one from Konoha's senior management to rehabilitate Itachi, but this is exactly what Itachi hopes.Itachi doesn't want more people to know the truth about the genocide. What is the truth?
Only Uchiha is going to betray.Itachi would rather bear the crime himself than let the family be stained.
2. Uchiha's betrayal is what Madara wanted.
It is Danzo's plan to eliminate the Uchiha tribe, and Danzo's plan is just to seize power.And Madara's plan does involve world control.
In contrast, Itachi chose to exterminate the genocide.Madara's plan was thwarted.
From the genocide remarks, we can see that the two people's statements are completely different.
Let me state my point first, I think Itachi is lying.
First of all, Itachi's position is to stand on the side of Konoha.It can be seen from the fact that he can exterminate the whole family for Konoha.
Therefore, his purpose is to eliminate spots.Since the whole family can be exterminated for the sake of Konoha, then it is nothing to tell a little lie.
The reason why Itachi said this was to make Sasuke hate Madara.Then use Sasuke's hatred to kill Madara once.
In this way, Konoha eliminated another huge threat.
Madara's position is to oppose Konoha and re-establish the Uchiha family.As the person who betrayed Konoha, why did he still help Konoha?
How to do it.It is said that the purpose of the Konoha family is to betray Konoha. As a fellow clan, there is no reason to destroy fellow clan members who have the same will as themselves.
Itachi's remarks, his position has been said to be centered on Konoha, so we can get 3 points:
Shape Madara into a brother who is as hateful as himself.Let Sasuke's hatred deepen.
Madara didn't tell him these detailed details. He narrated the matter from his own standpoint. (It's a bit YY, it's just a hypothesis.).
Madara told him so.
Madara's remarks, according to the situation at the time, I think this statement has some loopholes.first.
The elder brother who is about to go blind can dedicate his eyes to the younger brother, because Madara overuses the power of the kaleidoscope, which is the punishment he deserves,
The younger brother who knows how to restrain the use of this dangerous power becomes the one who protects the family.This is more reasonable, and it is not said in the comics that Madara's talent is not as good as Madara's.discuss this
The answer can be known from the question of time. The time when Madara and Konoha confronted each other was the time when the first generation was in power, and when the first generation was in power, they dueled with the first generation.
Shortly after the duel, the second generation succeeded.It was not until the 2th generation took office that the Nine Tails incident occurred 4 years ago.
I think the Nine-Tails incident 16 years ago really has nothing to do with Madara, because it was as early as the time when the first generation fought, Nine-Tails were summoned.
Then he should be blind, so he can't summon Nine-Tails, let alone control them.
(End of this chapter)
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